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		<title>By: SW</title>
		<link>http://www.jamesavery.co.uk/2009/03/30/adfero-directnews-are-incompetent-and-if-i-cant-say-it-on-a4u-ill-say-it-here/comment-page-1/#comment-5296</link>
		<dc:creator>SW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I'd found this a few months ago. I signed up and have found all the problems outlined above. Pathetic standard of writing, hideous mistakes (Yorkeshire was described as a Continent in one!) and even articles promoting rival websites! When I dared to complain, I was berated for having an agressive tone and informed no one senior would call me. Its been, without doubt, the biggest waste of marketing budget I've experineced in 14 years in travel industry marketing roles.

Any one considering it, please don't do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I&#8217;d found this a few months ago. I signed up and have found all the problems outlined above. Pathetic standard of writing, hideous mistakes (Yorkeshire was described as a Continent in one!) and even articles promoting rival websites! When I dared to complain, I was berated for having an agressive tone and informed no one senior would call me. Its been, without doubt, the biggest waste of marketing budget I&#8217;ve experineced in 14 years in travel industry marketing roles.</p>
<p>Any one considering it, please don&#8217;t do it.</p>
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		<title>By: realtor</title>
		<link>http://www.jamesavery.co.uk/2009/03/30/adfero-directnews-are-incompetent-and-if-i-cant-say-it-on-a4u-ill-say-it-here/comment-page-1/#comment-4597</link>
		<dc:creator>realtor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GMH

"I think it is quite entertaining that people, who I am assuming consider themselves to be good business people, reject an idea because of a couple of, what seem to me as being, bitter comments from a companies ex-journalists.

When a company has a high staffing level and in turn large client base then there are going to be times when people do not get a level of service they require, and maybe in some instances unfairly do not get (which my point is not arguing)"

i am glad that your experience is different, but a lot of people don't seem to enthralled by the service. Yes the comments were bitter, as Adfero are a very exploitative employer, and so you're naturally going to feel bitter towards them as an ex-employee. But i think the comments from ex-employees help explain why a reasonably high proportion clients are so unhappy with the customer service they're given by Adfero, and the unremitting contracts they're locked into.

"Are you all suddenly going to stop using Microsoft packages because for the last 20+ years they have exploited everything and everyone it touches! ask yourself that one!"

But Microsoft don't exploit all their employees. Microsoft packages don't get rewritten everyday and then plonked on the front page of your company's public-facing website also, so potentially embittered Microsoft employees aren't such a concern. 

"I feel that the Adfero Direct News concept is fantastic - in order to employ a semi-decent content editor would cost me upwards of 25k and with reference to the content they produce - I dont expect them to be on the front line in Iraq giving me unique reports!!"

You can get cheaper and better alternatives elsewhere, according to a lot of people. But fair enough if you feel the service does what you want

"Back to my reference to Microsoft - do you think that Bill Gates became the power and money magnate he did from being nice, paying fairly and sprinkling everything with fairy dust!!!"

What has Bill Gates personal wealth got to do with anything? Adfero barely breaks even, so i don't think it's owners are quite in the Bill Gates realm yet. Also, it's great that you judge a potential service company by how poorly it treats its employees - the worse, the better in yoru opinion? 

"Wake up people - if you have been “exploited” then more the fool you, you probably didnt have the writing talents in the first place"

So everyone who works there "probably has no talent as a writer"!! I don't have any talent, as a writer, but plenty of my colleagues had a lot of talent. Why are you trying to use some wild and moronic generalisation as justification for Adfero's exploitational employment practices?

Your obviously someone who doesn't care about making a reasoned argument, but rather are more interested in spewing a load of sales-oriented stupid crap, so i can see while Adfero's content would appeal to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GMH</p>
<p>&#8220;I think it is quite entertaining that people, who I am assuming consider themselves to be good business people, reject an idea because of a couple of, what seem to me as being, bitter comments from a companies ex-journalists.</p>
<p>When a company has a high staffing level and in turn large client base then there are going to be times when people do not get a level of service they require, and maybe in some instances unfairly do not get (which my point is not arguing)&#8221;</p>
<p>i am glad that your experience is different, but a lot of people don&#8217;t seem to enthralled by the service. Yes the comments were bitter, as Adfero are a very exploitative employer, and so you&#8217;re naturally going to feel bitter towards them as an ex-employee. But i think the comments from ex-employees help explain why a reasonably high proportion clients are so unhappy with the customer service they&#8217;re given by Adfero, and the unremitting contracts they&#8217;re locked into.</p>
<p>&#8220;Are you all suddenly going to stop using Microsoft packages because for the last 20+ years they have exploited everything and everyone it touches! ask yourself that one!&#8221;</p>
<p>But Microsoft don&#8217;t exploit all their employees. Microsoft packages don&#8217;t get rewritten everyday and then plonked on the front page of your company&#8217;s public-facing website also, so potentially embittered Microsoft employees aren&#8217;t such a concern. </p>
<p>&#8220;I feel that the Adfero Direct News concept is fantastic - in order to employ a semi-decent content editor would cost me upwards of 25k and with reference to the content they produce - I dont expect them to be on the front line in Iraq giving me unique reports!!&#8221;</p>
<p>You can get cheaper and better alternatives elsewhere, according to a lot of people. But fair enough if you feel the service does what you want</p>
<p>&#8220;Back to my reference to Microsoft - do you think that Bill Gates became the power and money magnate he did from being nice, paying fairly and sprinkling everything with fairy dust!!!&#8221;</p>
<p>What has Bill Gates personal wealth got to do with anything? Adfero barely breaks even, so i don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s owners are quite in the Bill Gates realm yet. Also, it&#8217;s great that you judge a potential service company by how poorly it treats its employees - the worse, the better in yoru opinion? </p>
<p>&#8220;Wake up people - if you have been “exploited” then more the fool you, you probably didnt have the writing talents in the first place&#8221;</p>
<p>So everyone who works there &#8220;probably has no talent as a writer&#8221;!! I don&#8217;t have any talent, as a writer, but plenty of my colleagues had a lot of talent. Why are you trying to use some wild and moronic generalisation as justification for Adfero&#8217;s exploitational employment practices?</p>
<p>Your obviously someone who doesn&#8217;t care about making a reasoned argument, but rather are more interested in spewing a load of sales-oriented stupid crap, so i can see while Adfero&#8217;s content would appeal to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
		<link>http://www.jamesavery.co.uk/2009/03/30/adfero-directnews-are-incompetent-and-if-i-cant-say-it-on-a4u-ill-say-it-here/comment-page-1/#comment-4079</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The growth of content production has caused the bigger companies to fail as they don't appreciate that this is our lively hoods they are messing about wih. Dupe is death we all know that and I had a bad experience when someone with a heavier linkweight than mine published my content.  I have worked with a company called purecontent for a while now and have had a much better experience as they seem to be web people and are all from a web publishing background. www.purecontent.com.  I read about them on Doug Scotts blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The growth of content production has caused the bigger companies to fail as they don&#8217;t appreciate that this is our lively hoods they are messing about wih. Dupe is death we all know that and I had a bad experience when someone with a heavier linkweight than mine published my content.  I have worked with a company called purecontent for a while now and have had a much better experience as they seem to be web people and are all from a web publishing background. <a href="http://www.purecontent.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.purecontent.com</a>.  I read about them on Doug Scotts blog.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.jamesavery.co.uk/2009/03/30/adfero-directnews-are-incompetent-and-if-i-cant-say-it-on-a4u-ill-say-it-here/comment-page-1/#comment-3375</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 23:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My original reason for stopping using Adfero was because the service was terrible. It is only since then that staff have come forward to vent their complaints. Most businesses don't have the time to go round vetting the individual business practices of every company they trade with, but if a business wants to stop working with a supplier because they view them as unethical, then fair enough. 

As is so often the case, businesses which treat their staff poorly also have contempt for their customers. If Adfero works for you, then fine - in our case, the return was nothing like 6:1, and any 'value' from supposedly providing unique content was negated by the amount of duplication going on in the stories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My original reason for stopping using Adfero was because the service was terrible. It is only since then that staff have come forward to vent their complaints. Most businesses don&#8217;t have the time to go round vetting the individual business practices of every company they trade with, but if a business wants to stop working with a supplier because they view them as unethical, then fair enough. </p>
<p>As is so often the case, businesses which treat their staff poorly also have contempt for their customers. If Adfero works for you, then fine - in our case, the return was nothing like 6:1, and any &#8216;value&#8217; from supposedly providing unique content was negated by the amount of duplication going on in the stories.</p>
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		<title>By: GMH</title>
		<link>http://www.jamesavery.co.uk/2009/03/30/adfero-directnews-are-incompetent-and-if-i-cant-say-it-on-a4u-ill-say-it-here/comment-page-1/#comment-3280</link>
		<dc:creator>GMH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is quite entertaining that people, who I am assuming consider themselves to be good business people, reject an idea because of a couple of, what seem to me as being, bitter comments from a companies ex-journalists.

When a company has a high staffing level and in turn large client base then there are going to be times when people do not get a level of service they require, and maybe in some instances unfairly do not get (which my point is not arguing)

Are you all suddenly going to stop using Microsoft packages because for the last 20+ years they have exploited everything and everyone it touches! ask yourself that one!

I feel that the Adfero Direct News concept is fantastic - in order to employ a semi-decent content editor would cost me upwards of 25k and with reference to the content they produce - I dont expect them to be on the front line in Iraq giving me unique reports!!

The solution is cheap - if they want to pay peanuts and employ monkeys, fair enough, as long as the content saves me time, gets me seo recognition and keeps the cost down then who am I to argue with someone who was bright enough to have the idea in the first place.

Back to my reference to Microsoft - do you think that Bill Gates became the power and money magnate he did from being nice, paying fairly and sprinkling everything with fairy dust!!!

Wake up people - if you have been "exploited" then more the fool you, you probably didnt have the writing talents in the first place, and if you are a business person that rejects the idea because you dont like the way they treat staff then you are an idiot....period!

I make a lot of money from the service that I have feed 6 websites - it costs me what it does but have a direct roi ratio of 6:1 - need i say more!!


YOUR LOSS!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is quite entertaining that people, who I am assuming consider themselves to be good business people, reject an idea because of a couple of, what seem to me as being, bitter comments from a companies ex-journalists.</p>
<p>When a company has a high staffing level and in turn large client base then there are going to be times when people do not get a level of service they require, and maybe in some instances unfairly do not get (which my point is not arguing)</p>
<p>Are you all suddenly going to stop using Microsoft packages because for the last 20+ years they have exploited everything and everyone it touches! ask yourself that one!</p>
<p>I feel that the Adfero Direct News concept is fantastic - in order to employ a semi-decent content editor would cost me upwards of 25k and with reference to the content they produce - I dont expect them to be on the front line in Iraq giving me unique reports!!</p>
<p>The solution is cheap - if they want to pay peanuts and employ monkeys, fair enough, as long as the content saves me time, gets me seo recognition and keeps the cost down then who am I to argue with someone who was bright enough to have the idea in the first place.</p>
<p>Back to my reference to Microsoft - do you think that Bill Gates became the power and money magnate he did from being nice, paying fairly and sprinkling everything with fairy dust!!!</p>
<p>Wake up people - if you have been &#8220;exploited&#8221; then more the fool you, you probably didnt have the writing talents in the first place, and if you are a business person that rejects the idea because you dont like the way they treat staff then you are an idiot&#8230;.period!</p>
<p>I make a lot of money from the service that I have feed 6 websites - it costs me what it does but have a direct roi ratio of 6:1 - need i say more!!</p>
<p>YOUR LOSS!!</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.jamesavery.co.uk/2009/03/30/adfero-directnews-are-incompetent-and-if-i-cant-say-it-on-a4u-ill-say-it-here/comment-page-1/#comment-2518</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, sorry I really can't comment any more. The point of my post was to warn people about the specific dangers of using Adfero direct news. It isn't really my position to recommend someone else if they turn out to be just as bad! I can only suggest you do your due diligence, and decide accordingly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, sorry I really can&#8217;t comment any more. The point of my post was to warn people about the specific dangers of using Adfero direct news. It isn&#8217;t really my position to recommend someone else if they turn out to be just as bad! I can only suggest you do your due diligence, and decide accordingly.</p>
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		<title>By: David Gordon</title>
		<link>http://www.jamesavery.co.uk/2009/03/30/adfero-directnews-are-incompetent-and-if-i-cant-say-it-on-a4u-ill-say-it-here/comment-page-1/#comment-2371</link>
		<dc:creator>David Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 16:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James, thanks so much for posting this. I was about to put money into this and now I won't.  can you or anyone else help with a smaller outfit like the one Mark Blake talked about in April?  you know anyone working for that company should set up with a couple of colleagues and cut out the middleman, do the job well and get properly paid for it.  But great that people speak up about this stuff.  As consumers of business or consumer stuff we have ultimate power, if only we realised it, to force the right thing to happen.  This is a step in the right direction, thanks again James and others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, thanks so much for posting this. I was about to put money into this and now I won&#8217;t.  can you or anyone else help with a smaller outfit like the one Mark Blake talked about in April?  you know anyone working for that company should set up with a couple of colleagues and cut out the middleman, do the job well and get properly paid for it.  But great that people speak up about this stuff.  As consumers of business or consumer stuff we have ultimate power, if only we realised it, to force the right thing to happen.  This is a step in the right direction, thanks again James and others.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 11:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also worked for DirectNews and can completely back up what the other ex-employees have said. If you're a client considering using Adfero - please don't. The content you are getting is a load of tripe and who can blame the overqualified writers for producing such utter tosh when the working conditions are abysmal? Adfero is literally a sweatshop for stories, writers have on average ten minutes to research and write an article and there are very few checks in place. Added to this the meagre pay, total absence of perks and the fact that you are often not allowed to take a single day off for months at a stretch because everyone is so overworked and there is no effective cover policy in place, it is easy to see why DirectNews can only deliver a very low quality product, something that most of the good-natured and exploited journalists can only look back on with horror once their skills are far better appreciated elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also worked for DirectNews and can completely back up what the other ex-employees have said. If you&#8217;re a client considering using Adfero - please don&#8217;t. The content you are getting is a load of tripe and who can blame the overqualified writers for producing such utter tosh when the working conditions are abysmal? Adfero is literally a sweatshop for stories, writers have on average ten minutes to research and write an article and there are very few checks in place. Added to this the meagre pay, total absence of perks and the fact that you are often not allowed to take a single day off for months at a stretch because everyone is so overworked and there is no effective cover policy in place, it is easy to see why DirectNews can only deliver a very low quality product, something that most of the good-natured and exploited journalists can only look back on with horror once their skills are far better appreciated elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: realtor</title>
		<link>http://www.jamesavery.co.uk/2009/03/30/adfero-directnews-are-incompetent-and-if-i-cant-say-it-on-a4u-ill-say-it-here/comment-page-1/#comment-2223</link>
		<dc:creator>realtor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 17:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maybe grossly underpaid is a bit harsh there, but there can't be many fulltime jobs that pay that little in london, especially office jobs...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe grossly underpaid is a bit harsh there, but there can&#8217;t be many fulltime jobs that pay that little in london, especially office jobs&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: realtor</title>
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		<dc:creator>realtor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 17:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>agree with everything kate h said.

Just to make the point clear:

The sales pitch is a load of sh*t. 

You get your articles from a grossly underpaid 21-year-old (17k a year in london), who'll normally be extremely disillusioned and be doing about 25-30 similar-length articles a day. They find your stories normally by typing a relevant search into Google, and then quickly rewording one of the other articles that comes up - &amp; then often putting in a crass one-liner containing your keyword at the end.

If that's what you want then fine, but completely forget about all this "unique", and "team of content producers" bollox!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>agree with everything kate h said.</p>
<p>Just to make the point clear:</p>
<p>The sales pitch is a load of sh*t. </p>
<p>You get your articles from a grossly underpaid 21-year-old (17k a year in london), who&#8217;ll normally be extremely disillusioned and be doing about 25-30 similar-length articles a day. They find your stories normally by typing a relevant search into Google, and then quickly rewording one of the other articles that comes up - &amp; then often putting in a crass one-liner containing your keyword at the end.</p>
<p>If that&#8217;s what you want then fine, but completely forget about all this &#8220;unique&#8221;, and &#8220;team of content producers&#8221; bollox!</p>
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